Tom Skinner is talking about a phone in a Paul Thomas Anderson film when something shifts. Not the plot, not the period — the air. His second solo album began in that kind of collapse: time folding, rhythms carried forward, images sealed in emulsion for decades. A conversation about patience as method.

Seb Rochford has been part of the undercurrent of British music for more than two decades — from Polar Bear’s knotty jazz to the ritual weight of Pulled by Magnets, from punk clubs to Patti Smith’s stage. A drummer, composer and producer, he’s always treated sound as something felt before it’s understood.